Comments on: Gomis and Guerreiro: Two Stories of Dual Nationality in Euro 2008 http://euro2008.worldcupblog.org/news/gomis-and-guerreiro-two-stories-of-dual-nationality-in-euro-2008.html News from Euro 2008 Championships in Austria and Switzerland. Wed, 30 Jul 2008 23:09:03 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: ricardoc http://euro2008.worldcupblog.org/news/gomis-and-guerreiro-two-stories-of-dual-nationality-in-euro-2008.html/comment-page-1#comment-690 ricardoc Fri, 30 May 2008 13:22:37 +0000 http://euro2008.worldcupblog.org/news/gomis-and-guerreiro-two-stories-of-dual-nationality-in-euro-2008.html#comment-690 Intriguing point about all squads being made up of Brazilian players. It'd be interesting to see an overview of all foreign bred playing at the Euros (by which i mean guys who started a football career in their own country before moving to the one where they play international football). And in particular of brazilian born. My own contribution as far as brazilians go: Portugal - Deco, Pepe Poland - Guerreiro Turkey - Mehmet Aurelio Intriguing point about all squads being made up of Brazilian players. It’d be interesting to see an overview of all foreign bred playing at the Euros (by which i mean guys who started a football career in their own country before moving to the one where they play international football). And in particular of brazilian born.

My own contribution as far as brazilians go:
Portugal – Deco, Pepe
Poland – Guerreiro
Turkey – Mehmet Aurelio

]]> By: Jean-Michel http://euro2008.worldcupblog.org/news/gomis-and-guerreiro-two-stories-of-dual-nationality-in-euro-2008.html/comment-page-1#comment-676 Jean-Michel Fri, 30 May 2008 00:49:35 +0000 http://euro2008.worldcupblog.org/news/gomis-and-guerreiro-two-stories-of-dual-nationality-in-euro-2008.html#comment-676 Dp, Thanks for clearing up the Surinam matter. I still thought they were Dutch. Dp,
Thanks for clearing up the Surinam matter. I still thought they were Dutch.

]]> By: Dp http://euro2008.worldcupblog.org/news/gomis-and-guerreiro-two-stories-of-dual-nationality-in-euro-2008.html/comment-page-1#comment-669 Dp Thu, 29 May 2008 21:51:39 +0000 http://euro2008.worldcupblog.org/news/gomis-and-guerreiro-two-stories-of-dual-nationality-in-euro-2008.html#comment-669 Jean-Michel: Surinam is an independent nation, with its own team playing in CONCACAF. Unfortunately, it's awful. And in response to Mauro, Guyana is independent as well, with its own not quite as bad CONCACAF team that no one's ever heard of. With respect to French African players, many of them are born and raised in France (Zidane, Saha, Drogba though he plays for Cote D'Ivoire, Sagna, Abidal, Benzema etc.) and are thus more French than anything. They are eligible to play for their parents' national teams, but are cap-tied at 21 years old or whenever they first play for their senior national team side. So it would be inaccurate to describe them as raiding African talent--its talent that is homegrown but happens to be heavily represented by players of African descent. With Holland, it's a similar situation with players of Surinamese descent (Babel, Drenthe, Engelaar, and Gullit and Rijkaard in the past), Indonesian descent (van Bronckhorst, Landzaat) and other ethnicities (Aissati, Melchiot, etc.) Jean-Michel: Surinam is an independent nation, with its own team playing in CONCACAF. Unfortunately, it’s awful. And in response to Mauro, Guyana is independent as well, with its own not quite as bad CONCACAF team that no one’s ever heard of.

With respect to French African players, many of them are born and raised in France (Zidane, Saha, Drogba though he plays for Cote D’Ivoire, Sagna, Abidal, Benzema etc.) and are thus more French than anything. They are eligible to play for their parents’ national teams, but are cap-tied at 21 years old or whenever they first play for their senior national team side. So it would be inaccurate to describe them as raiding African talent–its talent that is homegrown but happens to be heavily represented by players of African descent. With Holland, it’s a similar situation with players of Surinamese descent (Babel, Drenthe, Engelaar, and Gullit and Rijkaard in the past), Indonesian descent (van Bronckhorst, Landzaat) and other ethnicities (Aissati, Melchiot, etc.)

]]> By: Jean-Michel http://euro2008.worldcupblog.org/news/gomis-and-guerreiro-two-stories-of-dual-nationality-in-euro-2008.html/comment-page-1#comment-662 Jean-Michel Thu, 29 May 2008 19:02:49 +0000 http://euro2008.worldcupblog.org/news/gomis-and-guerreiro-two-stories-of-dual-nationality-in-euro-2008.html#comment-662 Mauro, French Guyana has the same status as Martinique, Guadeloupe, St. Martin (the French side), and St. Barthelemy. They are all "departements" or states of France. A player born there has the same status as a player born in Paris and has the same eligibility to play for the national team. Guyana is an independent country so they would field their own team. Surinam is a Dutch territory as are Aruba, Bonaire, & Curacao so players born there automatically have a European passeport (Holland). Mauro,
French Guyana has the same status as Martinique, Guadeloupe, St. Martin (the French side), and St. Barthelemy. They are all “departements” or states of France. A player born there has the same status as a player born in Paris and has the same eligibility to play for the national team. Guyana is an independent country so they would field their own team. Surinam is a Dutch territory as are Aruba, Bonaire, & Curacao so players born there automatically have a European passeport (Holland).

]]> By: Mauro http://euro2008.worldcupblog.org/news/gomis-and-guerreiro-two-stories-of-dual-nationality-in-euro-2008.html/comment-page-1#comment-660 Mauro Thu, 29 May 2008 18:21:09 +0000 http://euro2008.worldcupblog.org/news/gomis-and-guerreiro-two-stories-of-dual-nationality-in-euro-2008.html#comment-660 What happens to the French national team since they poach players from Africa? Do most of those players play in the French league already? Also, does the fact that the Guyanas are Dutch territory and therefore are able to poach players from there keep them exempt? What happens to the French national team since they poach players from Africa? Do most of those players play in the French league already?

Also, does the fact that the Guyanas are Dutch territory and therefore are able to poach players from there keep them exempt?

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